After months of organising, stress and uncertainty, today everything became so worthwhile. Yesterday my wife received the sms from VFS to say that her application had been processed and returned to the courier. We had been expecting to wait at least a few more days before her passport arrived in Phuket. Earlier today I received the best phone call I've ever taken in my life....my wife's passport had arrived and inside was her UK settlement visa.
It's still sinking in but it feels like a huge weight has been lifted. Now we can finally start to make real plans for our future together in the UK.
The application was submitted on 19th September and processed on 11th October so total processing time was just three weeks and one day, or 16 working days depending on how you look at it.
The only disappointing thing (if that is even possible after such good news) is that the embassy have started the "valid from" using the "expected travel date" that we put on the application form. At the time of submission the processing times were longer and so we put in what we thought was a realistic date two months after the submission. We did not specifically ask for that travel date anywhere else on the form or in the additional info so we were not expecting them to post-date the visa. That means my wife can not travel until next month, but still its not too long and if anything will give me a chance to organise things at home.
So the plan now is to look for flights. I'm going to head back to LOS for a week next month, help my wife pack up and then bring her home with me.
Although this is what the blog has been building toward over the past few months, our journey is far from over so I will continue to post on our progress. For now I'll take some time to let it sink in and relax before the real hard work begins lol
Cheers
Steve
Follow us on our journey from our marriage in Thailand and through the UK settlement visa process
Wednesday, 12 October 2011
Monday, 26 September 2011
Wedding Studio Photos
When my wife and I were married earlier this year, one thing we didn't have time to do was make some decent wedding photos. So on my first week back in LOS we spent a day at a wedding studio in my wife's home town Maha Sarakham.
Originally we decided on a package of 7000thb but the price didn't include too much for the money. When we went back to have the photos done we agreed to a more expensive package of 13000thb. For the price we had two outfit changes with four backdrops, farang and Thai style (although my wife used her own thai style wedding dress), hair and make-up, 30 action shots and album, plus one large scale print of our choice.
Here's a selection of a few:-
Originally we decided on a package of 7000thb but the price didn't include too much for the money. When we went back to have the photos done we agreed to a more expensive package of 13000thb. For the price we had two outfit changes with four backdrops, farang and Thai style (although my wife used her own thai style wedding dress), hair and make-up, 30 action shots and album, plus one large scale print of our choice.
Here's a selection of a few:-
Visa application submitted 19th September
Hi All,
Just back home today after a busy couple of weeks in Thailand. We finally submitted my wife's settlement visa application on 19th September. The on-line submission and appointment is relatively straight forward so I'll keep this one (reasonably) short.
On-line Application Process
Basically the on-line visa applications are filled in by going to this website http://www.visa4uk.fco.gov.uk/ Firstly I printed off a rough paper version of the settlement form from the UKBA website and went through it with my wife to make sure I had all the relevant answers. I actually started the process about a week before I left the UK and filled in the form on behalf of my wife. The on-line form is pretty much (if not identical to) the paper form. It also allows you to save your application before submission and then go back to complete it but you must log-in within seven days or you'll have to start a fresh application. I basically signed into the almost completed form on the first day when I arrived in LOS and printed it out when it was completed. I did it this way because I needed to make an appointment for the second week of my trip but the system only allows you to book appointments so many days in advance (a week), hence the reason I couldn't simply complete it all and book an appointment from the UK.
Booking Appointments to Submit Supporting Documents and Payment
When you reach the point on the form where it is complete, you are then prompted to print a copy which must be signed and submitted with the supporting documents folder. You are then also prompted to make an appointment to submit the supporting documents. This is done by clicking on a link to the VFS website. To book an appointment you need the spouse's passport number which you'll have anyway. When we booked there were many appointments available for later the same week, but none available on a next day basis which may be worth considering if you have limited time. When the appointment is booked you print out the confirmation which will show the VFS office address and contact details.
We booked an appointment for 10.00am and arrived at Regent House at around 09.30 because we had to arrange a bank draught for the payment. VFS do not accept cash but there is a bank downstairs where we obtained our bankers draught made out to "British Embassy Bangkok" for the 40,500thb fee. I believe you can pay by card too when you complete the form on-line but I won't comment on that because it's not the way we wanted to go.
So we made our way upstairs at 10.00am and although busy, it wasn't a scrum. I had to wait outside whilst my wife went in and I nervously waited around for about 30mins. Janny then came out looking stressed and said we had to reprint the form because something was missing. I looked through it and couldn't see anything wrong but they mentioned something about the signature page. I still don't know exactly what the issue was but I think the page had not printed correctly and also my wife signed it in English and she was told to print and sign again in Thai. The staff let me inside for around 10mins to reprint the paper before I was basically told to get out lol.
Anyway a while later after Janny had her biometrics done and paid the courier fee to send back the original folder to Phuket (we submitted a separate folder of copies to be retained by the Embassy), she came out and had calmed down a little. My wife was given a receipt with a reference number which is used for tracking the application through the VFS website and it also says the receipt must be given to the courier on receipt of her passport when the decision has been made.
That was pretty much it. In total we were at the VFS building for almost two hours. We then flew down to Phuket later that afternoon. A few hours after submission Janny received a text to say the folder had gone to the Embassy. Now it's just a waiting game and I'll keep checking the website every other day to check the status. The lady at VFS told my wife "4 weeks if quickly, 60 days if slowly". However I've seen a few quick responses recently of around two weeks but I'm not trying to think about it too much.
It's gonna be a long first day back at work tomorrow that's for sure.
Cheers
Steve
Thursday, 1 September 2011
Almost there.......
It's just over a week before I fly back out to LOS. I haven't posted for a little while so I thought I'd give a brief update.
Everything I can include or add to my wife's settlement folder from the UK has pretty much been done. My sponsor letter which I was putting off until the last minute is now finished, as is Janny's covering letter. After reviewing the file I decided to add a few additonal documents. For example I downloaded a copy of the land registry document for my house to add to the accommodation section (£4 from http://www.landregistry.gov.uk/). Other than that I'm fighting the urge to play around with the layout and just leave it as it is. That just leaves the addition of Janny's documents in Thailand, such as her birth certificate, name change paper, etc to complete the folder. One of our first jobs when I arrive into BKK is to have those documents translated.
Janny's had a busy week starting the prepartions for our village ceremony, although to be honest her family back home are doing a lot of the work before we get there. There's been lot's of ringing around pricing studio photo's, having invitations made and pricing dress rental etc. In the end it worked out only a little more expensive to actually buy her dress so we'll only need to rent my suit. I must admit, when we first started talking about the village ceremony a while ago it was basically just a way of gathering more evidence to add to the visa application. But the more we talk about it and the closer it gets I'm really looking forward to it. From what she's been telling me, it sounds like it will be a really good experience for both of us and I know she's a lot more excited about it than she's letting on.
So what now? This weekend I'm going to fill in the online application and save it, ready to submit and print out when I get to Thailand. The problem being you can only book appointments to submit the supporting documents up to five days in advance. We need a date for the second week so that will have to be done in LOS.
I'm sure the following week is going to drag with nothing left to do. But one thing is for sure, I'm so glad I started preparing everything early rather than leaving it to the last minute. I'd much rather be sitting here with nothing to do rather than rushing around trying to pull everything together.
Next time you here from me I'll probably be in Thailand, so until then.....
Steve
Everything I can include or add to my wife's settlement folder from the UK has pretty much been done. My sponsor letter which I was putting off until the last minute is now finished, as is Janny's covering letter. After reviewing the file I decided to add a few additonal documents. For example I downloaded a copy of the land registry document for my house to add to the accommodation section (£4 from http://www.landregistry.gov.uk/). Other than that I'm fighting the urge to play around with the layout and just leave it as it is. That just leaves the addition of Janny's documents in Thailand, such as her birth certificate, name change paper, etc to complete the folder. One of our first jobs when I arrive into BKK is to have those documents translated.
Janny's had a busy week starting the prepartions for our village ceremony, although to be honest her family back home are doing a lot of the work before we get there. There's been lot's of ringing around pricing studio photo's, having invitations made and pricing dress rental etc. In the end it worked out only a little more expensive to actually buy her dress so we'll only need to rent my suit. I must admit, when we first started talking about the village ceremony a while ago it was basically just a way of gathering more evidence to add to the visa application. But the more we talk about it and the closer it gets I'm really looking forward to it. From what she's been telling me, it sounds like it will be a really good experience for both of us and I know she's a lot more excited about it than she's letting on.
So what now? This weekend I'm going to fill in the online application and save it, ready to submit and print out when I get to Thailand. The problem being you can only book appointments to submit the supporting documents up to five days in advance. We need a date for the second week so that will have to be done in LOS.
I'm sure the following week is going to drag with nothing left to do. But one thing is for sure, I'm so glad I started preparing everything early rather than leaving it to the last minute. I'd much rather be sitting here with nothing to do rather than rushing around trying to pull everything together.
Next time you here from me I'll probably be in Thailand, so until then.....
Steve
Saturday, 6 August 2011
Folder Layout & Document Presentation
***Amended 7th August. Following advice from those in the know, I have changed the folder to a smaller more manageable flexible plastic one. I have also removed all of the photocopies and will submit those in a separate folder in the same layout. The reason being that if the folder is too large to fit inside the VFS jiffy bag used to send it to the embassy, then there is a chance the staff will remove the documents from the folders which could affect the order and presentation***
With five weeks to go until I return to Thailand. The TB test and all of the legal requirements are taken care of. There's not much more I can do from the UK, other than compile the documents and evidence which I have with me here and organise them into my wife's settlement visa folder.
No doubt there may be some changes made before submission and there are some things I have yet to complete e.g. my sponsor letter, on-line application, plus the addition of translations and any documents from Thailand. But so far the layout is as follows:-
With five weeks to go until I return to Thailand. The TB test and all of the legal requirements are taken care of. There's not much more I can do from the UK, other than compile the documents and evidence which I have with me here and organise them into my wife's settlement visa folder.
For the layout I have decided to split the folder into eight sections. Each section will be labelled, indexed and separated by dividers. A main contents page at the front will make it easy for the embassy staff to find whatever they need. At the beginning of the larger more detailed sections, for example the financial, accommodation and evidence, I have written an overview explaining what is included in that section.
No doubt there may be some changes made before submission and there are some things I have yet to complete e.g. my sponsor letter, on-line application, plus the addition of translations and any documents from Thailand. But so far the layout is as follows:-
Section 1 – Introduction
- Cover letter from applicant
- Cover letter from sponsor
Section 2 – Application Form
- Printout of completed online application form VAF4A
Section 3 – Applicant Key Documents
- Current Passport
- Previous Passport
- ID Card (Photocopy)
- Thai marriage certificate + English translation
- Name change certificate + English translation
- Tabien Baan house book (photocopy)
- Financial status, Bank of Ayudhya bank book, Bank of Ayudhya applicant/sponsor joint bank account book
- Employment history
Section 4 – Sponsor Key Documents
- Copy passport certified by UK based solicitor
- Birth Certificate
- Copy of Thai marriage certificate
- Copy of certified Affirmation of Freedom to Marry
Section 5 – TB Test & English Language Requirement
- TB Test certificate issued by IOM Bangkok
- BULATS English test certificates issued by Vantage Siam Bangkok (A1 + B1 levels achieved)
Section 6 – Sponsor Financial Status
- Financial status overview
- Six months salary slips + P60's dated 2010 & 2011
- Annual bonus confirmation letter
- Letter from current employer
- Confirmation letter of 2011 pay increase
- Savings account statements Feb '11 – present (Acc No 01196228)
- Current account statements March '11 – present (Acc No 02432952)
- Latest credit card statement showing balance & available credit
Section 7 – Accommodation
- Accommodation overview
- Photographs of accommodation
- Land Registry Document
- Floor plan
- Royal Bank of Scotland mortgage statements 2008-2011
- Council Tax Bill, City of Sunderland 2011/12
- Northumbrian Water utility bill 2011/12
- Npower Gas & Electric utility bill 2011
- Home insurance policy certificate
Section 8 – Evidence of Relationship
- Section overview
- History of relationship
- Photographs applicant/sponsor April '10 - Sept '11
- Boarding passes from sponsors Thailand trips April '10 - Sept '11
- Copy of sponsors passport pages showing entry stamps into Thailand
- Boarding passes from joint trips made together applicant/sponsor
- Hotel receipts
- Skype sms records sponsor to applicant May '10 - Sept '11
- 18185.co.uk itemised telephone invoices, sponsor to applicant
- Orange home invoices
- Orange mobile invoices
- Copy of joint bank account book opened after marriage May '11
- Western Union money transfer receipts sponsor to applicant June '10 - Sept '11
- Copy emails, selection May '10 - Sept '11
- Wedding Greetings cards from family and friends
Presentation of Evidence
Photographs - For the presentation of photographic evidence. Rather than submitting full albums I have made a selection of pics spanning the duration of our relationship. Some of the photos have the date digitally stamped in the corner which also helps. I have arranged them into a kind of timeline format. I have pasted three or four photos onto individual A4 pages and printed them out. I will add more in September when I return to Thailand to include our village ceremony and more with the family. But in total I will include maybe twenty pages or around eighty photos. I may also include the original prints but haven't decided if that is necessary.
Evidence of contact - I have included copies of monthly Skype sms records, itemised telephone bills from land line and my mobile, money transfer receipts and emails. For emails, due to the volume I have selected copies of a few from each month from the duration of our relationship but will also include a screen shot of my in/out box. This may sound strange but in with my photos I have included a shot of me and my wife chatting on skype to show how we talk via webcam.
Originals vs Photocopies - The Embassy state that original documents, plus one photocopy of each should be provided. I have tried to do this for everything where possible including bank statements, pay slips, P60's, marriage certs etc. I have also made photocopies of everything that will be included in the folder to keep here at home. Just in case I need to refer to anything and also there is a chance that some documents will not be returned by the Embassy.
***Following advice and due to the amount of documentation I have decided to submit two folders. One containing all of the original documents and a second for photocopies of all of the original docs to be kept by the embassy***
***Following advice and due to the amount of documentation I have decided to submit two folders. One containing all of the original documents and a second for photocopies of all of the original docs to be kept by the embassy***
So again, that's pretty much where we're up to. I imagine the next few weeks will feel like a lifetime, because there isn't really much else I can do. I will start working on my sponsor letter soon but that shouldn't take too long. Ideally I will submit the on-line application just before I leave for Thailand but I believe they won't allow you to make appointments for any longer than five days ahead. So even that may have to wait until I land in LOS because we need to have an appointment for a week after I arrive. The first week when I arrive will be spent in Isaan for the village ceremony and I'll also have to spend some time having translations done and finalising the folder.
Cheers for now
Steve
Saturday, 16 July 2011
Here We Go Again - More Proposed Changes To UK Visa's
In July 2011 the UK government published a consultation on proposed changes to family migration (which includes the spouse of British nationals). The closing date if you wish to respond to the consultation is on 6th October 2011. The implementation of the proposals is to take place from April 2012.
As we will be submitting my wife's settlement visa application before this date, it remains to be seen how the proposed changes will effect us. However, the consultation contains important information for those considering applying for settlement to the UK over the coming months. The document is long and involved so I have tried to extract the important information in relation to spouses in keeping with the theme of this blog.
The consultation follows on from recent changes to other areas such as student and economic visa applications "We have already capped the number of economic migrants coming to the UK from outside the European Economic Area. We have announced plans to reform student visas and to clamp down on bogus colleges. We also recently launched a consultation aimed at breaking the link between temporary migration and permanent settlement. As a result of our policies we anticipate net migration will be in the tens of thousands in future. But we have been clear that we will take action across all the routes of entry to the UK, so we must also take action on the family migration route"
From what I can tell the key proposals relating to spouse applications are as follows:-
As we will be submitting my wife's settlement visa application before this date, it remains to be seen how the proposed changes will effect us. However, the consultation contains important information for those considering applying for settlement to the UK over the coming months. The document is long and involved so I have tried to extract the important information in relation to spouses in keeping with the theme of this blog.
The consultation follows on from recent changes to other areas such as student and economic visa applications "We have already capped the number of economic migrants coming to the UK from outside the European Economic Area. We have announced plans to reform student visas and to clamp down on bogus colleges. We also recently launched a consultation aimed at breaking the link between temporary migration and permanent settlement. As a result of our policies we anticipate net migration will be in the tens of thousands in future. But we have been clear that we will take action across all the routes of entry to the UK, so we must also take action on the family migration route"
From what I can tell the key proposals relating to spouse applications are as follows:-
- Increasing the probationary period before applying for settlement from two years to five years. As it stands when a foreign spouse enters the UK they are given a two year probation period. After that two years they can then apply for ILR (Indefinite Leave to Remain). This will be increased to five years under the new proposals. This would also mean that the spouse would also not be able to claim benefits until after that five year period.
- Introducing stricter or a more clear definition of what they consider to be a "genuine and continuing relationship, marriage or partnership". How exactly they intend to do that is not clear and they "invite views on how that definition should be framed". One suggestion is that "the couple have been in a relationship for a minimum of 12 months prior to the marriage visa or leave to remain application, and must be able to evidence regular contact during those 12 months."
- Increasing the income requirement of the sponsor considered sufficient to support the applicant without the need for recourse to public funds. At present, what is considered sufficient is based on the current level of Income Support. The document states that only the sponsors income and savings will be taken into account. It is also suggested that, given the current economic climate, the applicants potential earnings from working in the UK will not be taken into account as part of the requirement. Third party support will also not be considered, an example being if the sponsors parents were providing financial support for the couple.
- Reintroduction of an "attachment requirement". This means that the applicant and sponsor would have to show a combined "attachment" to the UK greater than to any other country other than marriage. The proposed outline of this is based on the system used in Denmark. One criteria of the Danish system states that the applicant must have visited the country at least 2 times before applying for the visa.
- Applicants to have an understanding of "everyday English". This would mean an increase to the B1 level from the current A1 level.
- Currently couples who have lived together for 4 years or more outside of the UK can be granted immediate settlement, leave to remain on return to the UK. Under the new proposals they would be made to complete the new 5 year probationary period.
- Appeals for family visitor visa refusals would be scrapped
So what are my thoughts? Well there are probably some good points in there and also some bad. I haven't had a chance to get my head around everything yet, simply because of the volume of information in there. What I haven't mentioned in the above is the amount of times the "burden on the tax payer" is highlighted in the consultation document. It's brought up too many times in my opinion and it seems like the government are using this as the basis to win favour with the general public. I also believe that the proposals are politically motivated, rather than a genuine attempt to tackle the immigration issue.
For anyone thinking of going down the settlement visa route these are important times and I would seriously recommend having a read through the consultation. It may seem like pretty boring stuff but could potentially have a major impact on future applications. The consultation can be found here:-
Instructions on how to respond to the consultation can be found here:-
Closing date for responding to the consultation is 6th October 2011
I suspect the decision on which, if any of the proposals will be implemented has already been made. But I for one will certainly be taking the time to complete the response form. I would suggest anyone with a personal interest do the same, however little effect it may or may not have on the outcome.
Steve
Monday, 11 July 2011
TB Test Certificate Issued
I mentioned briefly in another post about the TB test which is required for anyone wishing to stay in the UK for longer than six months. Today Janny was in Bangkok to have her test. Thankfully she was issued with a certificate, but again not without some drama.
The only office which can issue the TB test certificate is the IOM (International Organisation for Migration) based in Bangkok. Janny took the overnight bus from Phuket up to Bangkok (12hrs ouch!) and was met by a friend at the bus station who took her to the IOM office. Janny had called the IOM a week before to book an early appointment. When she called she was told to bring her passport plus one photocopy, her ID card plus photocopy and also two passport sized photos. After registering at the office, Janny was told to go to Phyathai hospital for her x-ray. There are two hospitals which the IOM use for the the x-rays, Phyathai and Bumrungrad.
Janny took a taxi from the IOM to Phyathai hospital where it didn't take long to have her x-ray done and then back to the IOM. At this point it was around 12.00 Thai time so I called her from home before I headed to work to see how she was getting on. First thing she said to me was "I not pass". Great I thought, nothings ever easy for us. I don't know exactly what the issue was with her x-ray, but they told Janny to go back and have another x-ray done.
So again, another taxi ride to Phyathai, another x-ray and back to the IOM. Luckily this time Janny was issued with a certificate. I can only presume that there may have been something small showing on the first x-ray and the IOM wanted another just to confirm that there wasn't a serious issue. I had heard of some people having to go back to the IOM on cosecutive days or even weeks for further tests, so we were both relieved to have the certificate issued.
So anyway by 15.00 a very tired but relieved Janny was heading back to the bus station with her TB certificate. When the IOM gave Janny her certificate, they told her to keep it with her when she flies because she will need to present it at immigration.
So thats another requirement ticked off the list. Some useful addresses and links as follows:-
TB Test fee: 2600baht
Validity Period: 6 months
International Organisation for Migration
Kasemkij Building
8th Floor, 120 Silom Road
Bangrak, Bangkok 10500
Tel: +66 2 234 7950-5
Fax: + 66 2 234 7956
Phyathai 2 Hospital Bumrungrad Int Hospital 943
Phaholyothin Rd 33 Sukhumvit 3
Phyathai, Bangkok Bangkok
10400 10110
http://www.vfs-uk-th.com/tb.aspx
http://www.vfs-uk-th.com/images/IOMInformationSheetEnglish.pdf
http://www.vfs-uk-th.com/images/kasemkij%20map.pdf
The only office which can issue the TB test certificate is the IOM (International Organisation for Migration) based in Bangkok. Janny took the overnight bus from Phuket up to Bangkok (12hrs ouch!) and was met by a friend at the bus station who took her to the IOM office. Janny had called the IOM a week before to book an early appointment. When she called she was told to bring her passport plus one photocopy, her ID card plus photocopy and also two passport sized photos. After registering at the office, Janny was told to go to Phyathai hospital for her x-ray. There are two hospitals which the IOM use for the the x-rays, Phyathai and Bumrungrad.
Janny took a taxi from the IOM to Phyathai hospital where it didn't take long to have her x-ray done and then back to the IOM. At this point it was around 12.00 Thai time so I called her from home before I headed to work to see how she was getting on. First thing she said to me was "I not pass". Great I thought, nothings ever easy for us. I don't know exactly what the issue was with her x-ray, but they told Janny to go back and have another x-ray done.
So again, another taxi ride to Phyathai, another x-ray and back to the IOM. Luckily this time Janny was issued with a certificate. I can only presume that there may have been something small showing on the first x-ray and the IOM wanted another just to confirm that there wasn't a serious issue. I had heard of some people having to go back to the IOM on cosecutive days or even weeks for further tests, so we were both relieved to have the certificate issued.
So anyway by 15.00 a very tired but relieved Janny was heading back to the bus station with her TB certificate. When the IOM gave Janny her certificate, they told her to keep it with her when she flies because she will need to present it at immigration.
So thats another requirement ticked off the list. Some useful addresses and links as follows:-
TB Test fee: 2600baht
Validity Period: 6 months
International Organisation for Migration
Kasemkij Building
8th Floor, 120 Silom Road
Bangrak, Bangkok 10500
Tel: +66 2 234 7950-5
Fax: + 66 2 234 7956
Phyathai 2 Hospital Bumrungrad Int Hospital 943
Phaholyothin Rd 33 Sukhumvit 3
Phyathai, Bangkok Bangkok
10400 10110
http://www.vfs-uk-th.com/tb.aspx
http://www.vfs-uk-th.com/images/IOMInformationSheetEnglish.pdf
http://www.vfs-uk-th.com/images/kasemkij%20map.pdf
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